tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574352165119565010.post1943878589984504492..comments2023-09-17T03:49:07.327-05:00Comments on WTFspaghetti: 25 Man Woe's, UFC talkWTFspaghettihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10304180361553774455noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574352165119565010.post-79666828370935324512009-05-29T01:46:03.506-05:002009-05-29T01:46:03.506-05:00Good Lord, do I feel your pain.
We've been ha...Good Lord, do I feel your pain.<br /><br />We've been having so many "failure to launch" moments with 25s lately, I could just scream. Sure, 2x10 is much nicer, and helps people to learn the fights - me included - but FFS. I want 25 man loot and 25 man challenge.<br /><br />Also, as to 25 > 10 difficulty... I think it relates more to the lowered margin for error. Yes, the raid can sustain the loss of 1 healer / dps in 25 with less impact than a 10. The tolerance for stupid is less, though. That vod zone you're standing in will kill you outright in 25, but you might eat two ticks in 10 - that sort of thing. Ulduar right now seems to be tuned to the point that a raid in Naxx25 gear isn't going to be able to have consistent success with 21-22 people like you could in Naxx. <br /><br />Some stuff is markedly easier in 25 - like Grobbulus, who is a complete joke. Some stuff (Razorscale, for instance) gets noticeably harder.<br /><br />Me, I'd just be happy with a full raid.Manchego / Ribeyehttp://toomanyalts.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574352165119565010.post-53873199085729247342009-05-28T09:19:09.173-05:002009-05-28T09:19:09.173-05:00Or Evans could try to dance around the ring and ge...Or Evans could try to dance around the ring and get KNOCKEDTHEFUCKOUT in the second round lol The main event was a pretty good fight. Machida is a much more rounded, disciplined fighter than Evans and will make a better champion I think. Hughes vs Serra was disappointing. Matt Serra is the most frustrating fighter ever to me. How can you have a black belt in jujitsu but never use it?Fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17653252976648480240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574352165119565010.post-22356070892587118232009-05-26T18:48:26.901-05:002009-05-26T18:48:26.901-05:00I love 25 mans.. It's the time when I can actually...I love 25 mans.. It's the time when I can actually just AFK in a fight and chill while I watch the other healers do their magic. srsly, 5 heals is enough for Naxx, we've tried.. I'm the 6th = the Surgeon General who does nothing but entertain with QQs about the DPS in our custom RLs channel.. =PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574352165119565010.post-36970091758356205242009-05-23T15:46:48.359-05:002009-05-23T15:46:48.359-05:00@hagu
I think what it really comes down to. Is th...@hagu<br /><br />I think what it really comes down to. Is that if your having to pug 10 people, you have no way of starting on time. if you have no way of starting on time, your losing raid time every single raid, and when you are already raiding for 4 hours, losing the first 40 minutes of that can cause problems.<br /><br />You can't even start to pug before raid time, because people will log on at the last minute and demand a spot.<br /><br />Starting the 25 man raid should really be as easy as posting sign ups, showing up 15-30 minutes early, and inviting your group.Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08906328697184992134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574352165119565010.post-61753895433631019502009-05-23T13:52:57.297-05:002009-05-23T13:52:57.297-05:00Perhaps I am biased by my current circumstances, b...Perhaps I am biased by my current circumstances, but I suspect you will find that PUGs will work better than 10 mans. How many people are dedicated enough to play reliably, yet not driven to the epeen of 25s? 10s work as 8-11 friends who would be friends w/o raiding. Or the churn horror of a "join so we can get you geared up enough to move to a more progressed guild" Saying that 25-mans need to drop better loot seemed like a reasonable design choice, but I think the current political issues are tough on ten man guilds. I understand that pugging is very, very unpleasant, but is it really worse than the alternatives? Is it worse than losing some good people because you haven't done U25 in a week or two?Haguhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03726885305104254286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574352165119565010.post-20309686271568920622009-05-23T09:53:10.191-05:002009-05-23T09:53:10.191-05:00In an actual bleeding-edge encounter, such as the ...In an actual bleeding-edge encounter, such as the ones in Sunwell, that requires perfect contribution from every single member of the raid, will be harder to complete in 25-man because there are 15 additional players who need to play perfectly. <br /><br />However, it's a point of debate whether or not there are any such encounters in the game at the moment. An encounter that is NOT tuned to 100% can actually, as you note, get easier because there are 24 people around to make up for any mistakes. At that point, the only increased difficulty is the out-of-game logistics.Green Armadillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15564045048380177626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574352165119565010.post-44298938276598981992009-05-22T19:26:35.228-05:002009-05-22T19:26:35.228-05:00yeah my guild's 25 man raids have been sucking lat...yeah my guild's 25 man raids have been sucking lately too but hopefully people start playing seriously and get their heads out their asses. Anyway, I hope things work out for you!<br /><br />PS I do agree that 25 mans are harder rarely due to strategy but only in the logistical parts.HPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762532904788031568noreply@blogger.com